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[Creaking Door]

.... I mean, do we really need city admin in charge of health delivery? Seems dumb to me.

Good point, although since the health committee was disbanded health issues have become part of the administration's bailiwick, which seems to have expanded under the current civic leadership.

Of course, the City admin would not have to actually deliver counselling services. The City could turn the money over to an appropriate body, much like for instance the golf club got a $54,197 grant in 2008 (2009?), and a $71,400 tax exemption (2009), to provide wellness services.

Small point, but doesn't the golf club still run a bar? If so, seems odd that such a facility would get a tax break from mayor and council while citizens are pondering whether the City should support better counselling services, or for that matter an umbrella for the kid's outdoor gym.  

[ThePodunkian]

Good point, although since the health committee was disbanded health issues have become part of the administration's bailiwick, which seems to have expanded under the current civic leadership.

Of course, the City admin would not have to actually deliver counselling services. The City could turn the money over to an appropriate body, much like for instance the golf club got a $54,197 grant in 2008 (2009?), and a $71,400 tax exemption (2009), to provide wellness services.

Small point, but doesn't the golf club still run a bar? If so, seems odd that such a facility would get a tax break from mayor and council while citizens are pondering whether the City should support better counselling services.   

Oh oh, Baker, slam and dunk, or as they say at the golf course, that's a hell of a hole in one there Creaky..

[BakerWriter]

Good point, although since the health committee was disbanded health issues have become part of the administration's bailiwick, which seems to have expanded under the current civic leadership.

Of course, the City admin would not have to actually deliver counselling services. The City could turn the money over to an appropriate body, much like for instance the golf club got a $54,197 grant in 2008 (2009?), and a $71,400 tax exemption (2009), to provide wellness services.

Small point, but doesn't the golf club still run a bar? If so, seems odd that such a facility would get a tax break from mayor and council while citizens are pondering whether the City should support better counselling services, or for that matter an umbrella for the kid's outdoor gym.  

Return serve, Creaking Door. Good show. 

Yes, and I agree that the subsidy for the golf course is ridiculous, but I think my aghast is derived from the fact I hate golf and could care less that the city has a course.

But there are a lot of users of the facility who believe that it's money well spent by the city. And is the golf course really that different from the ice rink? Is hockey really more of a priority than golf in the bigger picture (insert Calgary Flames/Tiger Woods/ H1N1 vaccine jokes here).

[My2cents]

I vote we get funding for a freakin drug and alcohol counsellor    If people will give money for umbrellas to cover equipment that the teens and the kids just seem to be lazing around on when I go by, wouldn't it be nice if we found some money for a drug and alcohol counsellor for this town.?  Possibly funded for say, a year contract, to start. Just a silly thought, I know how important umbrellas are in Rupert  Gotta LOVE our priorities though !!

Please relax on bringing up the drug councelling....every time someone posts , you(and some others ) always bring up the same addiction, councelling, street worker....on and on. I know this is a serious problem and needs to be addressed, give it a rest sometimes ,okay...

[bubbasteve735]

I'd like to direct your attention to my forum signature...

"The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity."
- George Bernard Shaw

Seems as though alot of people on this forum suffer from indifference these days...

[Jazella]

Please relax on bringing up the drug councelling....every time someone posts , you(and some others ) always bring up the same addiction, councelling, street worker....on and on. I know this is a serious problem and needs to be addressed, give it a rest sometimes ,okay...

  Give us a good reason to "give it a rest".

[My2cents]

I'd like to direct your attention to my forum signature...

Seems as though alot of people on this forum suffer from indifference these days...

bubbasteve...I certainly do not " hate " anyone, nor do I present myself as being indifferent. Just think the subject is brought up in alot of posts and, my opinion was given.

[Dex]

I think covering the exercise equipment is great; especially if someone else pays for it. It promotes physical fitness and good health.

As far as funding for drug counselors, etc.; have you tried lobbying the local churches for resources ie: funding, space, organization, etc. ? How bout starting a Narcotics Anonymous if we do not already have one. This city appears to be quite generous with charity from what I have witnessed. I am sure there is private money out there.

[bubbasteve735]

We have narcotics anonymous, alcoholics anonymous, and al-anon.

[Dex]

We have narcotics anonymous, alcoholics anonymous, and al-anon.

Excellent!

[codybear933]

Please relax on bringing up the drug councelling....every time someone posts , you(and some others ) always bring up the same addiction, councelling, street worker....on and on. I know this is a serious problem and needs to be addressed, give it a rest sometimes ,okay...

I didn't realize you had the priviledge of telling us what we can talk about.....I thought that right was reserved for the admins. Careful there bubbasteve, you have mentioned NA, AA and Al-Anon all in one little post, you may have gone overboard ? Might have to "give it a rest"  LOL   

[PLA]

Somebody is addicted to posting messages about addiction...


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[Creaking Door]

... I agree that the subsidy for the golf course is ridiculous ...

But there are a lot of users of the facility who believe that it's money well spent by the city.

Well I wouldn't have guessed ....

... And is the golf course really that different from the ice rink? Is hockey really more of a priority than golf in the bigger picture ....

Correct me if I am wrong, but I suspect that the hockey players pay for ice time, while the City gives the golf club grants and exemptions to pursue their preferred recreation.

[BakerWriter]

Well I wouldn't have guessed ....

Correct me if I am wrong, but I suspect that the hockey players pay for ice time, while the City gives the golf club grants and exemptions to pursue their preferred recreation.

It's $40 for a round of golf. And then there is the yearly membership. I don't know the price for that, but I argue its fairly expensive. So if you are talking about somehow players golfing for free than you are mistaken.

If I've missed your point, Creaking, sorry. But that was what I read from your post.

My point was pretty clear -- why is one sport subsidize-able and another not? If you were really to bare the costs of an ice rink every time you used it, user fees would be much more expensive than than they currently are (i.e. sharing the costs of lighting, heating, janitorial work etc.). The city pays for some of those costs for us to use because it promotes good health. Golf can be the same if you remove the carts from the equation.

Is it justifiable? I don't really see an issue with it. But if you do, perhaps attend a council meeting and let council know your thoughts on the issue.

[Creaking Door]

It's $40 for a round of golf. And then there is the yearly membership. I don't know the price for that, but I argue its fairly expensive. So if you are talking about somehow players golfing for free than you are mistaken.

If I've missed your point, Creaking, sorry. But that was what I read from your post.

My point was pretty clear -- why is one sport subsidize-able and another not? If you were really to bare the costs of an ice rink every time you used it, user fees would be much more expensive than than they currently are (i.e. sharing the costs of lighting, heating, janitorial work etc.). The city pays for some of those costs for us to use because it promotes good health. Golf can be the same if you remove the carts from the equation.

Is it justifiable? I don't really see an issue with it. But if you do, perhaps attend a council meeting and let council know your thoughts on the issue.

Well, that's quite a barrage of points there, Baker. A sensitive issue for sure.

I don't know how you could possibly read into my post that golfers play for free. That's a ridiculous inference, a 'straw man arguement' really.

How the golf club, or for that matter hockey teams, structure their internal finances is their business. The issue is City priorities for spending public funds.

Sure, City recreation facilities are subsidized. Most users - hockey players included - pay money into City coffers. The golf club, it seems, just receives public funds. What do they pay for use of City land? In many places golf clubs are entirely self-supporting. Would there be a grave injustice if that was the goal here?

I think that kids are the only citizens who should get free access to recreation facilities, as far as finances permit. And they should get an umbrella for the jungle gym, even if that means trimming back the tax exemption on the golf club's beverage room, where I imagine healthy drinks are served.