jesus wrote:pps; no we wont change the laws to allow you to fuck goats
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Spca
Dear Mr Watson;
I would just like to make you aware of a bulliten board discussing
your recent actions against the Prince Rupert spca.
http://hackingthemainframe.com/smf/inde ... 442.0.html is the
url at which residents of Prince Rupert are discussing this matter. I
find your comments inspiring and would like to know whether you would
be willing to assist me in protesting school bake sales.
These bake sales teach children it is ok to murder poor innocent
unborn chickens for profit. I believe some schools even have what is
called a hot lunch day where hotdogs and other animal based products
are sold. I believe together stop these horrendous acts against
animals. Please let me know if you would be willing to participate in
The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is dedicated to the
protection and conservation of marine wildlife. You can contact PETA
or other groups to help you with this "great and noble endeavor".
Seriously however - What part of the words PREVENTION OF CRUELTY
TO ANIMALS do you not understand. Crabs are animals and the SPCA
states in their objectives that they are opposed to cruelty to ALL
animals. The hypocrisy is obvious.
I think this was an interesting campaign. It has made people
think and there has been a terrific response both positively and
And it did not take much effort other than sending a few e-mails
to get the controversy rolling.
BigThumb wrote:From his reply, he is more interested in being a s#1+ disturber than saving marine wildlife. I wonder what he thinks should be done in order to not be "cruel" to the crabs ( by his standards) and still enjoy a tasty snack. Is killing the crab just before boiling it a better alternative? That's usually how I cook crabs, I split them in half ( instant death), remove the top carapace, clean the two halves then throw them in the water. Lobsters are cooked whole and alive. I've never heard any screams.
Crustaceans are poikilotherms ( fancy word for cold blooded), and when put in boiling water, their body would surely reach a critical temperature quickly and thus death would come faster than in a mammal. They also don't have the same kind of sensory receptors as we do and I don't recall seeing anything about pain receptors. If they would feel pain the way we do, why would missing legs be such a common occurence? Losing a limb is common in crustaceans and often used as a defence mechanism. Pain would surely hinder that adaptation.
me wrote:To: "Paul Watson"
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Spca
Is this hypocrisy you speak of the same hypocrisy where so called
environmentalists advocate the bombing of an animal shelter?
I fail to see any positive response from this, threats against an
agency that protects animals is what you consider positive? Or have
you received pats on the back from all of your other so called
How would you suggest I kill the crab I will be eating for dinner
tonight? My personal preference is to crack them in half over a
bucket then boil them.
Seriously though, how do you justify the acts of terrorism?
As a matter of fact I did not threaten to bomb any animal shelter nor
do I know anyone who did, nor would I approve of anyone who would. If
such threats were made they should be reported and investigated by
the police and charges laid if warranted.
You are putting words into my mouth and painting a picture that suits
your particular bias. Whatever floats your boat and allows you to
deny your hypocrisy.
I would suggest you not kill a crab at all since you asked for my opinion.
I don't justify terrorism because I do not practice terrorism nor do
I condone terrorism. You on the other hand have just admitted that
you will be practicing terrorism by smashing a crab which is
certainly a violent act.
So who is the terrorist? I the non-violent vegetarian or you the
violent meat eater? Classic Orwellian Doublethink it looks like to
me and thus you are an example of hypocrisy.
This is fun. Let me know if you have any futher brilliant perceptions
of whatever it is you seem to be obsessed with. So far you have been
addressing fiction not fact.
So, I am now a terrorist? Do you understand what a terrorist is?
Thats a fun word to throw around isnt it. Well let me help you with a
The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person
or an organized group against people or property with the intention
of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for
ideological or political reasons.
Now I dont know what I am trying to intimidate or coerce a crab into
doing, maybe get in my belly.
I have a few questions for you based upon this email: you say you
are a non violent vegetarian and I am a violent meat eater. well
would you classify bears as violent meat eaters? how about sharks?
you and I am sure many other people would. What about my 5 week old
kitten who just loves tuna fish is he a violent meat eater as well?
Oddly crabs also eat meat, and in some cases the meat of humans does
that make them violent meat eaters?
Why is it ok for sharks and other animals in the animal kingdom to
eat meat and not humans? I suppose now you will say you dont object
to humans eating meat and only object to the way the crabs are killed?
Well let me refute that argument right now, boiling a crab in hot
water live isnt the most pleasant way to die but then again neither
is being chewed alive by a shark is it?
So why is that you object to humans eating meat and in the process
helping other innocent animals.
Threats lead to Crab Feast cancellation
By Shaun Thomas
The Northern View
Aug 23 2006
Plans for the second annual Crab Feast fundraiser for the Prince Rupert SPCA were cancelled last week following numerous complaints and protests about the event, including a threat to blow up the facility.
The plan was to hold the live crab boiling feast in Mariner's Park on August 27, with crab donated by the Prince Rupert Crabber's Association, to help raise money for the care and housing of the animals in the shelter.
However the plan caught the attention of Paul Waton, President of the animal rights group known as the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society, who sent out e-mails to other members of the group calling on them to put pressure on the SPCA to cancel the event. Following a huge number of e-mails and phone calls, the SPCA did just that.
"The volunteers had organized the event and on Monday animal rights activists started a campaign against the event and a message was sent out over the Internet to call or e-mail the shelter to protest the event. We felt with so much opposition and the fact that we were starting to get some, quite frankly, scary opposition, that it would be in the best interest of the volunteers and the shelter to cancel the event," said SPCA Community Relations Manager Lorie Chortyk, noting that most of the protests came from outside of B.C
"We are a society concerned with animal welfare. If there is any doubt about our concern for animals we would rather air on the side of caution," she added.
On Wednesday the shelter received a call threatening to blow up the facility should the event proceed, and that threat has gotten the Prince Rupert RCMP involved as they search out the person who made the call.
"All threats are serious, and this wasn't a threat that there was already a bomb in the building but rather that there will be consequences if the event wasn't cancelled. That is quite a serious threat and we are investigating it to the best of our ability," said Inspector Ray Noble, who noted that details of the call were still being worked out .
"It is unfortunate that this type of threat is associated with this type of event. Certainly it is up the society to determine, based on public feedback, if an event is right for them, but going to the extent of a bomb threat is well outside of lawful and appropriate means of protest."
The SPCA had hoped to raise more than $3,000 from the event, and Chortyk said she hopes the community will support the society once a new event is organized.
Anyone with information on the bomb threat is asked to contact the RCMP at 627-2136.
Activists want SPCA to stop serving meat at fundraisers
CanWest News Service; Vancouver Sun
Published: Wednesday, August 23, 2006
VANCOUVER - Energized by their success in Prince Rupert last week,
where they convinced the local SPCA to cancel a fundraising event
that involved boiling live crabs, animal rights activists now want
the B.C. SPCA to ban the serving of meat at their fundraisers.
"This is prime time to ask the SPCA to revisit their own policies to
do with fundraisers, and to roll out a new policy that would work
towards events that would not involve the killing of animals,'' said
Sinikka Crosland, president of the Responsible Animal Care Society,
an Okanagan-based animal-protection group.
Crosland, who was instrumental in the campaign against the Prince
Rupert crab cookoff, said it was hypocritical of the SPCA to serve
meat at fundraisers.
"The SPCA does a lot of good work,'' she said. "However, I think they
need to go beyond that. This is not just about dogs and cats; it's
about factory farmed animals, too.''
The Canadian Voice for Animals has posted an online petition
demanding an end to all SPCA fundraising events that involve the
serving and consuming of meat.
Craig Naherniak, general manager of humane education for the B.C.
SPCA, said vegetarian choices are often available at SPCA fundraising
events, and that branches "are moving in that direction.''
However, he said it was not B.C. SPCA policy to force branches to
discontinue cooking and serving meat. That was a matter for
individual branches to decide on their own.
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