Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!



Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby herbie_popnecker » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:50 pm

I want a program that tells me if you read my e-mail or not!
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby jesus » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:54 pm

herbie_popnecker wrote:I want a program that tells me if you read my e-mail or not!


embedd a 1pixel transparent .gif file from your webserver with a unique name in the email like the spammers do.
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby herbie_popnecker » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:03 pm

tell me how that works, my brain is shut down for the weekend.
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby MiG » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:15 pm

jesus wrote:embedd a 1pixel transparent .gif file from your webserver with a unique name in the email like the spammers do.


Doesn't work on gmail, and probably doesn't work on yahoo mail either -- which apparently the local SPCA person uses.  Gmail and yahoo mail don't load external images unless you tell them to do so.  So Paul Watson's magical little program isn't worth shit.  Neither is his e-mail.
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby herbie_popnecker » Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:26 pm

Neither does Thunderbird unless you tell it too....

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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby MiG » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:00 pm

Lorie Chortyk should do some research on Paul Watson before using "warm regards" when e-mailing him her surrender note.  Like I said before, it was her call, not ours.  But caving in to threats is never a good thing, I don't think.

From: Paul Watson
To: Lorie Chortyk
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:32 AM
Subject: Thank-you to the British Columbian SPCA for Cancelling the Live Crab Boil Fund-Raiser

Dear Lorie,
    Therefore you have my complete and most sincere apologies for the stress this may have caused you. I am gratified and appreciative of this decision and accordingly I will make a donation myself to the Prince Rupert chapter of the SPCA following the August 24th date.
    I will make this very welcome decision known to all my contacts with the request that they will cease to protest the event.

Thank-you very much.

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Director - The Farley Mowat Institute

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Lorie Chortyk
  To: Paul Watson
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 9:24 AM
  Subject: RE: BC SPCA CLAIMS CRABS DON'T FEEL PAIN. BC SPCA DOES NOT FEEL EMPATHY

  Dear Paul,
  I just wanted to let you know that we have instructed the volunteers at the Prince Rupert Branch to cancel their event.  I am trying to respond to each and every email and phone message I have recieved to let people who have raised this concern know.
  Warm regards,
  Lorie
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby junior » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:15 pm

mY DAD SAYS THAT IT WASN'T THE LOCAL SPCA THAT CAVED IN THE TERRORISTS, IT WAS THE PROVINCIAL SPCA THAT ORDERED tHE LOCAL spca TO STOP THE CRAP HUNT.
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby Justin Case » Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:05 pm

Did somebody say that Sir Paul and his ex are coming here to pose with some crabs? I bet Herbie is already working on his speech. Now I am excited , Sir Paul and Herbie all in one sitting.
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby ThePodunkian » Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:00 am

Here's the debate as covered in the Daily News, both the front page story and the editorial by Earle Gale.

http://atowncalledpodunk.blogspot.com/2 ... 5164475176

And for good measure, here's the Globe and Mail's take on the boiling issue of the day.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... y/National
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby herbie_popnecker » Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:24 am

The irony, the irony.

Just noticed the address of the Sea Shepherd Society: Friday Harbor, Washington.
The little town on San Juan Island where we used to take weekend holidays to go crab fishing when I lived in Langley...
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby VMS » Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:27 am

At least Pauls email address was posted...heh.

This event was held last year and we went and bought half dozen tasty crab. One of which we ate right in the park, (missed the garlic butter though), the others we brought home. It was a good time, for a good cause.

Paul says he'll pony up some monies to the SPCA, wonder how much?

Its a goddamn shame though, I was looking forward to getting some nice fresh crab again...I guess Paul doesnt eat *any* seafood?
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby jesus » Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:27 am

junior wrote:mY DAD SAYS THAT IT WASN'T THE LOCAL SPCA THAT CAVED IN THE TERRORISTS, IT WAS THE PROVINCIAL SPCA THAT ORDERED tHE LOCAL spca TO STOP THE CRAP HUNT.


MY DAD  CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD!!!111!!!
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby MiG » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:08 pm

More from "Captain" Paul Watson:

The Live Crab Boil issue was publicized in the Vancouver Sun and Province, The Alberta Herald and the Prince Rupert Daily News last week. The Vancouver Sun reported that I would be donating the amount equivalent to what the SPCA would have made from the live crab boil. I did not say that. What I said was that I would make a donation and encourage others to do so also.

Apparently the publicity motivated some people to allegedly call in bomb threats to the SPCA in Prince Rupert, which if true, is as bizarre as boiling crabs alive to raise funds to prevent cruelty to animals. Some reporters tried to suggest that these threats were my fault and said that the RCMP was investigating these "terrorist" threats. My response is that I simply brought this contradictions to the attention of a great many people. How people respond is not my responsibility. Should we just stay quiet on such things. I don't think so. 

Well it appears that the SPCA in British Columbia canceled the live crab boil in Prince Rupert because of bad public relations BUT they just don't seem to understand the contradictions.Below is a list of up-coming fundraisers at various chapters of the SPCA in British Columbia.

On September 10th SPCA branches across British Columbia are hosting fund-raisers: 

One reporter asked me just what is wrong with the SPCA raising funds because they are doing so much for dogs and cats? Another asked me what we were doing to help animals? "Duh"

As for dogs and cats the Sea Shepherd Society has assisted Animal Balance in spaying and neutering over 3,000 animals in the Galapagos over the last two years.

I tired to explain by saying, by repeating these words real slow to them: The Society for the PREVENTION of CRUELTY to ANIMALS. I think the name of the organization speaks for itself - how clearer can it be - PREVENTION OF CRUELTY to ANIMALS.

Maybe there is another definition of animals that I am not aware of, one where crabs, pigs, chickens and cows are not animals.

Humans as always, are amusing in justifying everything they do as good no matter how bizarre the contradictions and how blatant the hypocrisy. 

One website in Prince Rupert asked how I cooked my crabs if I did not boil them. I suppose it is inconceiveable to some people that other people may not eat crabs.

Another message called me a terrorist for forcing the cancellation of an event where crabs would be boiled alive.

Hominids - they never cease to surprise me. Homo idioticus arrogantus

List of SPCA Venues for September. Save a dog, eat a cow!!!!!!!!!!
  Kamloops SPCA    250 - 376 - 7722
  "A tasty barbecue." (BBQ -the stands for Bruised, Battered Queerly treated Animals. I just love watching the steady drip of hot steaming blood dripping off of roasting flesh. BBQ are the three letters that stand between primitive humans and a civilized humanity)

  Penticton SPCA  250 - 493 - 0136
  "Snack on burgers and hot dogs."

  Vernon SPCA  250 - 368 - 5910
  "wonderful hot dogs"    - (Not so wonderful for the cows and whatever other living things are in the Hot Dogs. How these hot dogs can be more "wonderful" than any other hot dog is beyond me. They all have acceptable levels of bug parts, rat feces and who knows what else in them.)

  Victoria SPCA  250 - 388 - 7722
  "BBQ"

  Powell river SPCA 250 - 624 - 2589
  "Bobbing for Wieners"
  Barbecue will be set up for lunch."

  Surrey SPCA  604 - 597 - 5655
  "bobbing for weenies" (Let me see is this like apple bobbing but with wieners. Wow what a concept. First we tortureand abuse our food, then we kill it, then we play with it and then we eat it. I wonder if the water is hot - could be a few deserving scalded faces) 

  Squamish SPCA  604 - 898 - 9890
  "barbecue"

  Campbell River SPCA  250 - 286 - 6131
  "barbecue hot dogs"

  Comox SPCA  250 - 339 - 7722  - "barbecue"

  (Pamela Anderson is from Comox and I bet she does not approve of her local branch of the SPCA demonstrating their compassion for animals by eating animal flesh)

  Kamloops SPCA  250 - 376 - 7722
  "barbecue"

  Prince Rupert SPCA 250 - 624 - 2589
  "barbecue"   

  Grand Forks/Boundary  SPCA 250 - 442 - 5858
  "barbecue"

  100 Mile House  SPCA
  "Doggie Bobbin" (No idea what this is but it sounds like hot dog bobbin similar to the bobbin for weenies above, whatever that is?)

British Columbia's former Environment Minster and Well Known Talk Show Host Rafe Mair has this to say about the controversy:

The decision of the BC Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals to have a crab dinner has brought an issue into focus few want to face. I'm sure that many who learned of the opposition of environmentalists Paul Watson and Anthony Marr passed the off as being kind of eco-freaks. But we do that, I think, because we don't want to face unpleasantness when it's inconvenient.

The SPCA is having a money raiser and is serving freshly boiled crab. Pays your nickel and hear your own crab scream as it is tossed into the boiling water.

The SPCA would never kill dogs that way so why crabs? An interesting question if you want to honestly face it and find an answer.

Let's talk about fish for a moment. I stopped killing fish 20 years ago and stopped fishing altogether about three years ago. But when I did kill fish I dispatched them with a "priest", that delightful name sports fishermen give the blunt instrument they use. I don't know any sports fishermen who would just throw the fish onto the bank or onto the bottom of the boat and let is suffocate. But that's precisely how commercial fishermen and fish farmers kill their quarry - by the millions. Yet we eat fish without a thought for the terrible way they died.

We're told that cattle are bonked on the head and that it's humane - is that they way you will choose to die?

All of us turn our minds away from unpleasant things as I do writing this just before I head out for a plate of mussels. But Paul and Anthony have me thinking - what about you?

Rafe Mair is a member of the Sea Shepherd Board of Advisors

Captain Paul Watson
Founder and President of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society (1977-
Co-Founder - The Greenpeace Foundation (1972)
Co-Founder - Greenpeace International (1979)
Director of the Sierra Club USA (2003-2006)
Director - The Farley Mowat Institute

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I'll bet Mr. Watson would also insist that all animals at the SPCA be fed a strict vegan diet as well. 
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby BigThumb » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:50 pm

I guess he must have been reading htmf:

One website in Prince Rupert asked how I cooked my crabs if I did not boil them. I suppose it is inconceiveable to some people that other people may not eat crabs.


I am wondering what he eats.  If he is a vegan, he should think about the harmed done to vegetables when they are pulled out of their birth place where they grow.  When plants are cut in pieces, their life fluids are spilled.  And since the fruiting body of plants is very often what feeds humans, vegans rob the plants from a chance to reproduce.  They are often thrown in hot pots to be boiled or sautéed.
Some will say it's not the same.  They will argue that plants don't sense things.  BS!  Check out tropism on wikipedia.org for examples on how plants are aware of their surroundings and respond to many stimuli.  We just think they don't react because they are much slower than us.
So I wonder if the extremist like Watson who don't want the rest of us to eat fish, seafood and meat think about the cruelty done to their own food.  Maybe if they would apply their principles to their own diet, we wouldn't have to worry about them much!
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Re: Like a crab in a tall pot, SPCA finds itself in hot water!

Postby ThePodunkian » Mon Aug 21, 2006 5:21 pm

MiG wrote:More from "Captain" Paul Watson:


I'll bet Mr. Watson would also insist that all animals at the SPCA be fed a strict vegan diet as well. 


I'm surprised that no one has told Mr. Watson et al, about our giant whack a coho festival currently ongoing.

Now that would add to the organizers misery of late.....

But it would unite us all in a common cause I guess, maybe we could have a crab boil afterwards in solidarity.
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