Teachers Strike

[Soggy]

What kind of logic is that? Teaching is an important profession, but let's face it, almost anybody can do it. The bulldozer operator is a teacher when he passes on his knowledge to an apprentice. Volunteer coaches are teachers, parents are teachers every day of their life. Scout leaders, band leaders, preachers, hell even the guy giving pottery lessons on YouTube are teachers. You imply that without this batch of teachers the world would grind to a halt.

Teaching, true teaching, is more of an art than a profession. Teachers should be one of the most highly paid of the professions. Yes, right up there with doctors and, ahem, lawyers.

At least give them a cost-of-inflation wage increase.

Most of you understand the 15% increase over three years is a beginning bargaining position by the teachers. If the government was serious about doing their fricken jobs they would have more of an offer than "NO".

[crazy Horse]

I disagree totally that teachers be paid at the same rate as doctors. Not even close. I don't think they should go for more concessions either, they get good vacation benefits, sick leave, pension, professional development etc. I think a 2%-3% wage increase is reasonable. More than most out there will get this year given the economic times.

[Soggy]

You've got to agree that teachers are more valuable than lawyers though.

[crazy Horse]

LOL, yes indeed.

(subject to change my answer if I ever really need a good lawyer!)

[brah]

What kind of logic is that? Teaching is an important profession, but let's face it, almost anybody can do it. The bulldozer operator is a teacher when he passes on his knowledge to an apprentice. Volunteer coaches are teachers, parents are teachers every day of their life. Scout leaders, band leaders, preachers, hell even the guy giving pottery lessons on YouTube are teachers. You imply that without this batch of teachers the world would grind to a halt.

Teaching, true teaching, is more of an art than a profession. Teachers should be one of the most highly paid of the professions. Yes, right up there with doctors and, ahem, lawyers.

At least give them a cost-of-inflation wage increase.

Most of you understand the 15% increase over three years is a beginning bargaining position by the teachers. If the government was serious about doing their fricken jobs they would have more of an offer than "NO".

Something tells me your a teacher, they should not make that much that your claiming. How much are they making now?

[PinchLoaf]

What do teachers even make? (inb4notenoughcomment) anyone know what they averages or if there is a pay scale for them? if their not being paid fairly then sure but I thought they made good money?.

The following is a link to the BCTF Teacher Salary Grid that expired in 2010. You may refer to each District individually. Many SD52 teachers are at maximum in their category due to age and experience: http://bctf.ca/SalaryAndBenefits.aspx?id=14758

And here is BCTF supplied Provincial Salary comparisons: http://bctf.ca/uploadedFiles/Public/Bar ... nkings.pdf

The length of professional training to become a teacher in BC, AB and SK is 1.6 years. It varies in other parts of Canada from 1 to 3 years. Other general courses make up the remaining credit hours. A BEd (the minimum acceptable level) requires 4 years of credit hours accumulation and any additional bachelor degrees do not directly add to professional teacher training. Not quite the level of expertise required of lawyers and doctors. Or accountants or engineers or nurses or architects or veterinarians or dentists or pharmacists or professors.

STF reports that SK teachers just settled this week for 9% over three years.
SK salary grid: https://www.stf.sk.ca/portal.jsp?Sy3uQU ... b6en706c=F

The ATA does things a little differently -- to no ones surprise: http://www.ataloc55.ab.ca/assets/files/ ... eement.pdf

[brah]

$50,000 - $75,000 seems like their paid pretty well, imo. They also get summers off and still making a good payday. Starting off at $40,000 is a respectable starting pay and add in those benefits teachers get like 2 months off in the summer, off on holidays, pension, medical, dental ect it seems like their paid fairly and given the times we're in, this is pretty fair. I respect that career and think it's important and they should be paid fairly, to me it seems they are.

[prpal]

What kind of logic is that? Teaching is an important profession, but let's face it, almost anybody can do it. The bulldozer operator is a teacher when he passes on his knowledge to an apprentice. Volunteer coaches are teachers, parents are teachers every day of their life. Scout leaders, band leaders, preachers, hell even the guy giving pottery lessons on YouTube are teachers. You imply that without this batch of teachers the world would grind to a halt.

Almost anybody can do it? Hmm... I think it would be pretty difficult. My two children drive me crazy sometimes! I imagine it would be pretty difficult to teach a room full of almost twenty children, some who have learning disabilities an all who have different personalities.

[brah]

What kind of logic is that? Teaching is an important profession, but let's face it, almost anybody can do it. The bulldozer operator is a teacher when he passes on his knowledge to an apprentice. Volunteer coaches are teachers, parents are teachers every day of their life. Scout leaders, band leaders, preachers, hell even the guy giving pottery lessons on YouTube are teachers. You imply that without this batch of teachers the world would grind to a halt.

Almost anybody can do it? Hmm... I think it would be pretty difficult. My two children drive me crazy sometimes! I imagine it would be pretty difficult to teach a room full of almost twenty children, some who have learning disabilities an all who have different personalities.

This can be said about many careers... every career can be stressful. Paramedics make $2 an hour on call and that's a stressful job, RCMP make about the same as teachers and I'd say that's higher stress, nurses as well most careers have stress. Teachers seem fairly paid when most seem to be in the $50,000 - $75,000 salary range, I don't think their in need of a increase, we have other areas that can use this money.

[Sir Ryan of Last]

More funding needs to be allocated to educate people on the proper use of "there", "their" and "they're".

Just sayin'.

[crazy Horse]

As well as "then" and "than" and one of my favourites, "seen". "I seen a bear today"

[jesus]

More funding needs to be allocated to educate people on the proper use of "there", "their" and "they're".

Just sayin'.

I believe people should be outfitted with an electric shock collar that can detect the improper use of there, their, they're, you, your, you're etc. my grammar is far from perfect but for fucksakes.1!@@@$

[wmcduff]

The length of professional training to become a teacher in BC, AB and SK is 1.6 years. It varies in other parts of Canada from 1 to 3 years. Other general courses make up the remaining credit hours. A BEd (the minimum acceptable level) requires 4 years of credit hours accumulation and any additional bachelor degrees do not directly add to professional teacher training. Not quite the level of expertise required of lawyers and doctors. Or accountants or engineers or nurses or architects or veterinarians or dentists or pharmacists or professors.

Just a note that the 1.6 years is after you get a bachelor's degree of some sort, generally. I was looking at it back in school. 5.5 to 6 years to be a teacher, if you do well in your classes, of course. And the entrance requirements to be a teacher are brutally high at many schools.

[brah]

Yikes! with the time off teachers get they make $56 dollars an hour!!!! yeah they don't need a raise.

http://taxpayer.com/blog/02-03-2012/bc- ... eally-make

[dabbledon]

The length of professional training to become a teacher in BC, AB and SK is 1.6 years. It varies in other parts of Canada from 1 to 3 years. Other general courses make up the remaining credit hours. A BEd (the minimum acceptable level) requires 4 years of credit hours accumulation and any additional bachelor degrees do not directly add to professional teacher training. Not quite the level of expertise required of lawyers and doctors. Or accountants or engineers or nurses or architects or veterinarians or dentists or pharmacists or professors.

Just a note that the 1.6 years is after you get a bachelor's degree of some sort, generally. I was looking at it back in school. 5.5 to 6 years to be a teacher, if you do well in your classes, of course. And the entrance requirements to be a teacher are brutally high at many schools.

Actually, one year of "professional studies" whether after degree (BEAD) or not. See CTF link: http://www.ctf-fce.ca/tic/default.aspx?sid=625890 . There is talk in parts of Canada of improving and updating teacher training by doubling the length of professional training from one to two years. More intensive training and improving on entrance standards would bring Canada in line with the expectations of successful nations. Maybe better trained teachers translates into better student achievement? http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/833745/ ... -education Then there is this very delicate and often suppressed educational issue - women now dominate the teaching force - and this appears to be creating some unexpected achievement gaps - math performance is one that is becoming difficult to ignore: http://news.uchicago.edu/article/2010/0 ... erformance