"God"

[DWhite]

The heart opens on it's own as you mature spiritually. It's a natural part of your own evolution. It is not dependent upon religion, physical age, or anything other than worldly experience.
But there are things you can do to assist the process. Like anything here, it has a mechanism that it operates by. Once you understand what that is, it's a matter of nurturing it.
Desire is not enough. It also takes ability that only comes from ripening.

I can only speak from my own experiences and that's what I do. I don't use a book to act as a testament. I am the testament. A living proof of if I can do it, so can you. And I can help guide others down that path because I've already been there and know the way.
I'm not a deity and don't want to be. I just want to help those brothers and sisters who struggle in the darkness of this world that I now see clearly in. Not selling anything. Free for the taking.
And I do take questions...

Question 1: Given what you know about me through these posts do you think I am a brother who is struggling in the darkness of this world that you see clearly in? I am not suggesting that I have the answers to anything but don't you think you are being a least somewhat presumptuous to suggest that you are a step up on the rest of us, that you are a testament a living proof a guide for others because you have been there and know the way. And the rest of us are just too spiritually immature to get it?

Question 2: What is the single most important thing I can do to assist the process of maturing spiritually. What is that mechanism that is a natural part of my evolution but still requires ability that comes from ripening.

I will admit up front that I am not likely to accept what you have to say, but I do find you a fascinating character. I am amazed at how strong a faith you have in your own beliefs You would put most people who claim a strong religious faith to shame.

And I am happy for you. You seem completely content probably more content than I am and I am pretty content in whatever ignorance you think I wallow in.

But right now you are not being any more convincing or specific than any other religious evangelist who has tried to alter my way of thinking. (And yes, that may be all my fault.)

[Right Coast]

Then riddle me this Batman. How fast can you duck, because if you show up in Rupert, someone is gonna through a liquor bottle at you. It won't be me because I am a smiling old fuck like the guy in my picture, but I would be tempted to piss on your leg.

[hitest]

Then riddle me this Batman. How fast can you duck, because if you show up in Rupert, someone is gonna through a liquor bottle at you. It won't be me because I am a smiling old fuck like the guy in my picture, but I would be tempted to piss on your leg.

Really? Violence and public urination?
These threads on religion/faith sometimes have a way of going off the rails. Let us please try to remain civil.
Thank you.

[DHCollins]

Good Morning class.

Question 1, This is a world of children. You may have great minds and well aged bodies, but spirituality is the last thing to mature in a human. The mind is in the driver's seat rather than the heart. You tend to concentrate your efforts for worldly gain rather than trancending the world. So it is not an insult to call you children. It's not meant to be condecending. I'm like an older brother who has gone off into the world and done things and then returns home to tell his younger siblings of his adventures. More often than not, they're going to think I'm pulling their leg. Their own realization will come when they too go off into the world and realize what I've said is quite true. But today is not that day.

Question 2, Compassion. The centerpiece of the Christ message. To be so empathic, you literally feel everything around you. For me, EVERYTHING is alive. Not just the things that you think are alive, but even rocks, the air and the stars. Matter is a form of crystallized consciousness. Most people identify with the forms it creates. I identify with it's essence.

I suppose you could say God is the clay from which creation is molded.

Back to compassion. The more you learn how to see yourself in all things, the more you will see. If all you have to work with is 5 senses, it's like you're crawling around on the floor in a dark gymnasium with 5 tiny candles to light your way. You're not going to see much beyond yourself. But compassion is like turning up the house lights and seeing everything at the same time.

People who undergo this transformation know it's a polarity thing. Most folks absorb the world around them. God realized people radiate outward into it.


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[DHCollins]

Then riddle me this Batman. How fast can you duck, because if you show up in Rupert, someone is gonna through a liquor bottle at you. It won't be me because I am a smiling old fuck like the guy in my picture, but I would be tempted to piss on your leg.

Like I said, this is a world of children. I expect some to behave as such. No problem.


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[DWhite]

Good Morning class.
Question 1, This is a world of children. You may have great minds and well aged bodies, but spirituality is the last thing to mature in a human. The mind is in the driver's seat rather than the heart. You tend to concentrate your efforts for worldly gain rather than trancending the world. So it is not an insult to call you children. It's not meant to be condecending. I'm like an older brother who has gone off into the world and done things and then returns home to tell his younger siblings of his adventures.

Whew for a minute there I did think you were being condescending and insulting.

Now I realize that I am just not as compassionate and spiritually mature as you are and likely never to be so. And I am actually OK with that. We can both live with whatever delusions each of us thinks the other is living.

And if you do come to Rupert, I won't throw a liquor bottle or piss on your leg. Unless you're a Canucks or Yankees fan. Then all bets are off.

[DHCollins]

Actually you will. But it's something you have to grow into. Every single person goes down this road sooner or later. We all have an instinct to return to our point of origin and you can only fight against it so long. There comes a time when your day at the fair becomes long and you just want to go home.

Not much of a sports fan I'm afraid. I don't have a competitive nature. But I do appreciate the skill involved.


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[Right Coast]

Sorry, I'm still drunk and brazen from "Talk like a Pirate" day..And Pirates don't suffer raps on the knuckles well either.. Ahem yourself.

[Soggy]

Actually you will. But it's something you have to grow into. Every single person goes down this road sooner or later. We all have an instinct to return to our point of origin and you can only fight against it so long. There comes a time when your day at the fair becomes long and you just want to go home.

Not much of a sports fan I'm afraid. I don't have a competitive nature. But I do appreciate the skill involved.


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I case you didn't get it, I've been down that metaphorical road and have come to my own conclusion which is not far from yours philosophically. However I simply don't buy all the magical bullshit. Enjoy walking about in yours.

Please come and investigate my church:

The Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic

[Piknic]

[quote=I'm like an older brother who has gone off into the world and done things and then returns home to tell his younger siblings of his adventures.
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No, you're more like every other condescending pain-in-the-ass who thinks everyone else is out of step and your way is the only way.

[Bbop]

Don't believe everything you think.

[Bbop]

Diet and exercise are the true paths to enlightenment.

[DHCollins]

Did you know that things like moths can see in ultraviolet light? We see one thing, they see the same, but in "in a different light". Different details reveal themselves in different spectrums.

There's nothing magical about it. It's a matter of perception. It's science. Why should it be so difficult to believe that humans also have variations in their perception? You're capable of many things you dont yet understand. I don't stare down my nose at you because you can't see what I see. I want to encourage you to broaden your perceptions so that you will. I'm not going to threaten you with eternal damnation if you say no. You're welcome to remain in your shell as long as you feel the need to. But for those who are ready...

As for diet and exercise, I've been a vegetarian since 1982. No meat, fish, or eggs. And I've been an avid cyclist even longer. No couch potato here. I don't even own a couch and watch very little TV.

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[DWhite]

I don't have a competitive nature.

I am not so sure about that. Your response to Right Coast showed a definite competitive edge.

Then riddle me this Batman. How fast can you duck, because if you show up in Rupert, someone is gonna through a liquor bottle at you. It won't be me because I am a smiling old fuck like the guy in my picture, but I would be tempted to piss on your leg.

Like I said, this is a world of children. I expect some to behave as such. No problem.

I am not sure about asking this without the discussion going completely off the rails as Hitest fears, but I am curious why Right Coast finds you creepy and why he thinks people might respond as he suggested. I am assuming that you don't make it a practice to knock on people's doors or stand on street corners. I might think you are full of crap but it is somewhat interesting crap and I don't mind spending a few words trying to figure it out.

[DWhite]

Please come and investigate my church:

The Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic

Thanks for the link Soggy. I spent a few minutes on it and intend spend a few more.